Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

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Should we use payware rolling stock

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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby Machinist » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:47 pm

I second Scott, especially about an optional version for those who doesn't know how to use RW Tools.
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby wackyhuman » Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:58 pm

I voted yes, but...

...there should be enough stuff out here for people who do not have the payware stuff.
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby oldgreyowl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:32 pm

Only just read this thread. Is it still in the mixer about using his payware?

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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby Jim Moeller » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:43 pm

I didn't see no expiration date..... !!howdy!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby Bob Artim » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:48 pm

Yeah but it is not all available again yet. Michael has been updating things to TS2013 standards. So we are waiting...
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby jgvaughan » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:46 pm

Okay, my vote was Yes but my recommendation would be two-fold:

1) If you are going to use payware, make sure you have it clearly indicated and identify where to obtain it.

2) If you have the RW Tools program why not also just make a non-payware version as well? There will be those who don't own RW Tools and/or can't afford the payware or the utility. That way you can test and make sure the scenario works both ways before placing it out there for everyone else.

Bottom line, and I remember Bob and I talking about this other times as well, we can't please everyone nor can we cater to everyone. Some folks will have a broader scope of enjoyment than others, the key is that everyone enjoy their experience. So when it comes to creating scenarios, I for one will be using a variety of the payware that is identified as authorized but will be sure to make a 'clean' version that uses only the stock equipment that comes with the basic program. From what I've seen from the tutorials so far, that isn't that big of a deal to do.
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby dphorton » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:05 pm

I vote yes also. There are a lot of good points for both ways.
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Re: Using Michael Stephan's payware rolling stock

Postby Bob Artim » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:23 pm

The only problem is you can not always match up payware with a freeware replacement. When you convert you payware scenario to use the freeware "available" counterparts the scenario could end up different or maybe not even work, asthetically. Just something to keep in mind.

At any rate I originally planned on including all of Michaels North Eastern area repaints into our vr. I figured the NERW is PA and we use the Horseshoe Curve and other eastern route they would be a good chioce of rolling stock in real world liveries.

If we are going to make secondary scenarios using freeware, then I say we can use any of Michael Stephan's stuff, just list it in the readme. I would like to NOT add 3rd party freeware though, it just get too complicated unless we get permission to host their files. Even then it won't be in the NE - structure. ANd if you watched any of the tutorial vids, you can see I have a lot of stuff to weed through while writing scenarios.
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